[parasubvert]

Are you new around here? There’s a vocal set of diehard contrarians that insist LG was the true pioneer and Apple just has better marketing, the iPhone wasn’t a better product.

It’s the most successful consumer electronics product in history, but some still are in denial.

[euyyn]

7 years with an account, and a few before just lurking. This is the first time I hear that, so they must not be many, or not very vocal.