[psadauskas]

Maybe I'm too opinionated about the whole thing, but I have yet to find a cloud management solution that does things the way I want. Cloudkick, Rightscale, Chef, all seem to work ok, if you're willing to buy in to their preferred way of doing things. If you want to stray from that, though, its a lot of work, and brittle.

I don't know that they're wrong, and I'm right, exactly, but it feels like they're all trying to paper over the features and drawbacks of cloud, and making it act more like traditional hardware that people are more familiar.

[ddispaltro]

We are trying to create a new way of doing things, right now we have a lot more on the monitoring side of coin; however, projects like cast are some of the next generation of tooling for CK. http://github.com/cloudkick/cast

[joevandyk]

Chef always seemed pretty flexible to me.