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by puranjay 2846 days ago
As a user, I hate AMP as well. I have plenty of data. Show me the whole page by default

AMP seems to be solving for a problem that doesn't seem to exist anymore. Data is absurdly cheap now. And wi-fi is never hard to find

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As somebody with fast Internet at home and at work, I still want to see far smaller page weights because I spend a lot of time working on trains or browsing the web on my phone. Internet connections in those situations can be fast, but they are often very inconsistent, both in terms of speed and latency.

I've lost count of the number of times a page has unnecessarily been rendered unusable because although it had loaded all of the important stuff, it was waiting around for a web font or JavaScript to finish loading and I was going through an area with poor signal.

That's in a developed country with solid, ubiquitous telecoms infrastructure. Most of the world – and most of the people in the world – don't have it as good, so it matters even more for them.

You live in a little bubble: the developed world, where data and wi-fi are plentiful.
I live in India. 4G is dirt cheap here. I pay less than $6 for 3 months of data capped at 2GB/day.
WTF. I pay €8 per month for 1.5 GB / month, and that's pretty cheap by German standards.
A big Indian conglomerate, Reliance, recently launched a service called 'Jio' that basically disrupted the entire mobile internet landscape.

Broadband access has improved drastically as well in the last one year. I've gone from paying $40/month for a 16mbps connection with a data cap of 80GB to $12/month for a 50mbps connection with no data cap.

It's come to a point where I don't think at all about data usage or my phone bill.

Which is why I say that AMP is a solution in the wrong direction. If India can make data so cheap, it's only a matter of time before other markets follow suit. AMP is a solution to a dying problem, not an emerging one.

The German telecom and ISP markets are a joke. Paying a fee just to be connected, most people being locked in for 2 years, garbage speeds and FUPs, the lack of local wireless ISPs, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if the average consumer was worse off that in the US, even though the country is mostly flat and relatively small so presumably easy to cover.

Hard to imagine how it could get this bad.

If a low income country like India could do it, I think it's mostly because of regulatory, not technical reasons.
Yes, a big part of the reason is that 3G/4G/5G frequencies were auctioned off by the state, and the bids reached absurd heights. To recoup that initial investment, each new generation of mobile broadband starts out at a huge premium compared to similar markets, and then those premium prices become the norm.
In Italy now I pay €5.99 / month with 30 GB of traffic (plus unlimited calls). free.fr came in Italy (branded as Iliad) and changed the market.
That sounds like quite a deal. I pay about 3€ a month for 1GB of data though a 4G connection.
Then only serve AMP pages to people from the developing world, why do I need to deal with a crippled version of the web because some other people have crap internet ?
Data may be absurdly cheap and free wifi might be easy to find where you live, but it certainly isn't everywhere.

Even if you do find wifi, it's often slow or totally broken. It usually requires you to log in and be tracked. Often the wifi network operator knows every place you visit when they have a network located there, even if you don't deliberately log in at those locations.

I need to ration about 40MB of data a day, which means i appreciate the effort