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> Many women are quite willing to get with some ugly old geezer with money in order to get a cut of his money.

Resources are arguably a proxy for genetic fitness, in that those resources must have been acquired somehow, and discounting luck that would indicate success in the acquisition of resources - on its own a useful trait to pass on to your offspring. Apart from that, it's perfectly possible for women to marry the ugly old geezer and be promiscuous with attractive young men, and this is backed up by statistics on the number of children unknowingly raised by men that are not the biological father.

I never said that Eugenics is desirable or that I support it. All I said is that I think there is a discrepancy - if we took the same approach to personal attraction as we do at a societal level towards Eugenics we would forbid attraction based on physical factors, which would be a very different world from what we have now.

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This is the same as capitalism vs communism: capitalism is good at individual level, not so good at society level. Communism is good at society level, not so good at individual level.

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Can you point to a single example in history of communism being good for society? Its benefits are thus far theoretical, are they not?

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URSS becoming the second world economy and China now arguable the first one, moving millions (billion?) of people out of poverty.

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Sure, you just have to look at various primitive societies that lived in villages to see how communism actually works well for society.

The problem is that no one has been able to scale it up to a modern industrialized nation-state and get it to work out well there. Every time they've tried, it's been a disaster.