[gm-conspiracy]

You are assuming k8s is already setup and running, right?

Say I want to deploy my application via k8s to bare-metal, Google, and Amazon (so I am not dependent on one provider)...what does that look like?

It seems like we are moving away from standards towards proprietary abstractions with regard to cloud environments.

[xur17]

> You are assuming k8s is already setup and running, right?

I've only used Google's managed k8s solution, but setting up the actual cluster is another 30 seconds of clicking 2 buttons on a website.

> Say I want to deploy my application via k8s to bare-metal, Google, and Amazon (so I am not dependent on one provider)...what does that look like?

As with any other multi-cloud solution, you need to decide how you're going to handle your dbs and other persistent data stores, but it's as simple as spinning up a cluster (rather than a vm) on each service, and then deploying to each.

With a little bit of upfront work, you get a ton of extra features. I've used Elastic Beanstalk on AWS, and running an app on Kubernetes is easier, even including the cluster setup time, and as a bonus, your deployment configurations aren't tied to a single vendor (you can pickup your k8s configs and more to another provider if needed).

[SolarNet]

I have a k8s cluster running on "bare metal" of 3 old consumer desktops and 6 old laptops, mostly heterogeneous hardware. It's as easy as setting each of them up as a webserver or database server, but I only have to set up the software once per machine and forget about it.

Much better than trying to host 12 websites on three machines and dealing with each machine by hand. And also load balance by hand, network by hand, configure the database servers by hand, different logging locations, etc. And that's all assuming I'm using docker. Let alone if I don't and then also have to deal with multiple versions of software between sites, differing technology stacks at the webserver, etc.

It's the superior solution for personal clouds and hobbyist server management too.

[manigandham]

Yes, if you have to install it from scratch then yes, it's more work. You can install from the source binaries or use KOPS or Rancher or a dozen other installers to set it up in a few clicks or CLI commands. If you're on the clouds, then stick with the managed offerings since they actually give you free master nodes.

Federation/multi-cluster is being reworked so multiple K8S clusters around the world on different providers can act as one, or you can use Rancher or some bash scripts to accomplish most of it today.

Also K8S is actually moving towards standards as every release includes a new interface for things that were previously proprietary, and now just use plugins for whatever provider you want.