[volgo]

Lol so the bar is asking for independence? Native Americans no longer advocate independence because they've been suppressed for for several generations, they're culture are effectively dead. Same thing will probably happen in China in 50-100 years

[mirimir]

Not to mention that most of them died from diseases spread (mostly unintentionally, I admit) by invaders. Also, it's my understanding that China and Israel both justify their behavior from US history.

[int_19h]

The bar is whether those occupied consider themselves occupied. Referendums and similar allow to measure that.

It's pretty clear that Tibet considers itself occupied. I know that some in Hawaii do, but do you think they're the majority?

[volgo]

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