[electic]

You're kidding? There is more and more rhetoric being spewed relating to the legal kind as well. There is even policy being enacted to drastically cut down or make it very hard to gain legal status by burying you with paperwork.

Beyond immigration talk, the constant spewing of racism coming from the administrations is a clear signal that immigrants of different backgrounds are not wanted.

To that end, they simply pack up and build their business and wealth elsewhere. We won't feel those effects right now but it will hit hard in a few years.

[repolfx]

There has always been pressure against H1Bs in the US tech industry. The one time I tried to immigrate to the valley there the visa cap was hit and I couldn't go (no regrets though). For my whole life I've seen American talk about immigration = outsourcing = lower wages. It's not new and it's not based in racism but rather money.

As for Trump, he is only talking about illegal immigration. Nobody with an engineering degree is going to care about his views on immigration, they may even welcome them because Trump apparently (I did not know this until reading the sibling links) wants to move to merit based immigration instead of a lottery scheme, which would help high skilled workers.

[moultano]

>Trump apparently (I did not know this until reading the sibling links) wants to move to merit based immigration

He also wants to cut the quota to a third of its current value.

[repolfx]

Not sure why you're being downvoted if it's true.

It can still be better for engineers though, if they are in the top third of desired immigrants from a jobs perspective.

[moultano]

Engineering benefits from enormous network effects. American engineers are better off if all the engineers in the world move here. The industry goes where the engineers are. It's not because the valley has few engineers that it pays high salaries, it's because it has many engineers, and the high paying companies locate here to benefit from the network effects.

[weiming]

> Beyond immigration talk, the constant spewing...

Curious to see some examples cited.

[arcticbull]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/04/06/poli...

https://www.aclu-wa.org/pages/timeline-muslim-ban

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/01/11/politics/immigrants-shith...

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/537012/

What more evidence do you need?

[devmunchies]

> What more evidence do you need?

You act as if CNN and ACLU are convincing sources,even though they have obvious agendas against the current administration.

[runamok]

The ACLU link is literally a timeline of events. Care to refute those instead of just making an ad hominem?

[moultano]

The guy said "there are good people on both sides" after a group of neo Nazis chanted "Jews will not replace us," murdered a woman by driving a car into a crowd, and attempted to lynch a black man.

[repolfx]

I clicked the first link.

I feel a strange need to show fairness to Trump here. The CNN headline is very misleading, it says "Trump basically called Mexicans rapists again" but then goes on to quote him and the quote doesn't contain any such statement. He doesn't even mention Mexicans. Rather he makes a general statement that women get raped a lot on the paths used for illegal immigration into the USA, a statement CNN actually agrees with according to their article:

"Nobody is arguing that the trip from Central America to the US is easy or that women are not attacked or exploited on it. That is a well-documented problem, one that Trump brought up to bolster his own case for tougher immigration laws."

Trump expressing concern about abuse of women on the paths used by illegal immigrants is an odd form of 'racism'.