[mmt]

> 1,200 $/mo is more than enough to get a room to yourself in the nice neighborhoods

One of the difficulties potential renters can run into, especially ones from out of town, is that no matter how nice the neighborhood is from a residential standpoint, it might be much less nice from a commuting standpoint (be it work or the coding bootcamp).

Whenever I try it, I find public transit within SF to be remarkably time-consuming, even to travel short distances. That means living outside the city can be both cheaper and result in a shorter (time, not distance) commute, which might seem counter-intuitive.

[ashtonbaker]

I know this isn't for everyone, but I'm just curious - what about cycling? Are the distances large or is it simply a congestion or street layout issue for driving and public transit?

[mmt]

SF is also famous for its hills, especially the steepness of some, which creates an additional barrier to cycling beyond the usual "not for everyone".