[kjuhygtfrde]

I always loved the way every engineering degree teaches you that the most important thing is that you must never work with another student, copy existing work or collaborate in any way.

Thats what industry demands - engineers that must work totally in isolation.

Of course it's not as bad as my PhD where I had to sign a disclaimer that it was entirely my own work and not the result of any collaboration or group effort. This as for an experiment at CERN that had about 10,000 people working on it!

[JoeAltmaier]

They aren't being paid to come to an engineering solution. They are paying to learn and get a degree. Which problem has an entirely different solution space. And probably doesn't include "steal/borrow/buy problem solutions and learn nothing, graduating in 4 years to design crap that kills people"

[kjuhygtfrde]

Then design courses and exams/projects so that team work is the way to do it right. They are paying to learn how to be engineers - the most important part of any engineering project is collaboration, teamwork and project management - not memorising Von-Whatsits formula for strength of a beam

I don't want a new engineer who thinks it's cheating to look up the strength of a beam in a handbook!

[JoeAltmaier]

One step at a time. Learning to do each skill is confounded using "teamwork" when that simply means one guy does all the work.