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by spditner 2851 days ago
Sangoma's doing a good job of consolidating the SMB Telephony market. They bought Schmooze Com Inc.[1] (owners of FreePBX, the largest Asterisk based Linux distro), Dialogic's hardware business, and VoIP Supply[3] (where most independent VARs order phones from).

[1] https://www.freepbx.org/sangoma-completes-the-acquisition-of... [2] https://www.dialogic.com/2018-01-09-sangoma-announces-sixth-... [3] http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/sangoma-announces-t...

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Former Asterisk guy here!

The industry needed this consolidation 10 years ago.

Glad to see it’s finally happening. So much talent has left the space now that it absolutely had to happen.

Sangoma is a great company and I’m sure they will do a great job.

Indeed, I ran a large-ish asterisk user group for years in Toronto and know a number of people at Digium and Sangoma, and there was always a bit of animosity between them. Glad to see them finally coming together.

Most of the talent I know took a step to the right (like myself) and are working with WebRTC. It's all the same stuff! Just more signalling layers on top of RTP channel management. I quite often end up doing SIP over WebRTC with things like sip.js (still backing onto Asterisk and FreeSWITCH) and XMPP over WebRTC with jitsi-meet.

Indeed the SIP over WebRTC open source stack is a thing of beauty!
> Sangoma's doing a good job of consolidating.

Does that mean they are doing a good job creating yet another monopoly? Seriously courageous. Are there other players left?

I fear more 3CX as a monopoly, the bought elastix and ditched it. 3CX CEO bought lots of SANGOMA shares back 1n 2016 (and later sold a few of them in 2017) Why your competitor's CEO would buy shares of your company? tips tinfoil hat
Dialogic is still going strong on their virtualized offerings.
There are 3cx and Vodia.
As someone who previously worked for a Dialogic customer with a single-digit customer number, I didn’t realize Dialogic had sold its hardware business off (again; after the IBM acquisition and subsequent spin-off). About time.

That said, I never really saw Dialogic as in the SMB space, certainly not their hardware division.

We must have had over 300 D480SC-2T1 boards in service at peak. Absolute workhorses. Their cPCI offerings were never as stable but 16 T1s or 1000 SIP ports in a single slot was extremely attractive. I recall them having issues with their supply chain for the high-density SIP boards in conjunction with field failures that pushed us towards their software product, HMP.

Dialogic’s HMP product was more stable and ultimately cheaper at scale (for SIP anyway; never had good luck with their T1 interface boards on HMP). Funny they didn’t sell that division off. Perhaps it’s still profitable or maybe Sangoma was simply uninterested as it isn’t really aligned with the Asterisk/FreeSWITCH ecosystem.

Wonder how much of that stuff is still running. You left a year after me so I suppose you wouldn’t know ;)

I have little faith in Sangoma's leadership when it comes to open source, it's not in their nature. Products and marketing is not the same as software. This is an old strange beast, and it's being put to sleep.

So Long Asterisk, And Thanks For All The Fish!