[glalonde]

The human would probably be able to blink/cancel if they were expecting it and therefore able to focus on a single thing prior to an event. The bot can focus on everything simultaneously and doesn't really need to expect anything. It gets a signal, it responds within 200ms, no problem. You could program that analytically.

So I would say the superhuman-ness isn't in the number of actions taken, or in the response delay, but in the massive attention bandwidth. I believe they've attempted to even the playing field in the first two, which are easily quantifiable, but I don't know about the latter.

[ehsankia]

To be fair, that's a little like saying Deep Blue had an advantage because it could try out thousands of possible plays simultaneously. That's true, but what makes humans good at Chess for example is that we have a really good "intuition" at which moves are good, and therefore we can prune non-promising branches in the decision tree better.

Similarly here, the AI can definitely do a lot more things at once, but each individual thing they do isn't very smart. For example, they waste money on useless wards or waste time sitting in front of Roshan. We can of course keep pushing the goal post, but I think if the AI can win with the given constraints, it's still a huge accomplishment.

Even more importantly though, it would be interesting to see if the AI is able to come up with new strategies and techniques that weren't known before.

[cthor]

The main situation that this was apparent is Euls on Axe when he blinks onto a target.

Axe's Beserker's Call has a 500ms cast time. Euls is instant. Bots have a 200ms reaction time. Humans have 200-300ms.

The problem is the human doesn't just have to react to Axe blinking on top of them and decide to target him with Euls. Humans also have move their mouse cursor onto the Axe, which for a human is hard to do in 200-300ms (the time they have after reacting to the Axe blink).

A comparable situation that happens a lot is using BKB or Manta to react to a similar initiation. Pros can hit this counterplay much easier because they only have to press a keyboard hotkey, rather than move their mouse to a target first.

[throw_away_777]

One thing to keep in mind is that humans have to process the game from the image on the screen and input through a mouse and keyboard. We have to move the mouse to react to things. The computer is super-human in part because it doesn't have to do these things. It will be interesting to see if they can translate their learnings to bots that react from the image on the screen rather than the API.

[infogulch]

"attention bandwidth" is a great term that really solidifies my fuzzy thoughts on how to characterize the bots, thank you!

[IMTDb]

Can't they "just" add a cost to each API call ? Wanna know the position of an enemy on the map: 50ms. Target a hero/creep/tower: 75ms.

[josefx]

Just make them drop the API and require use of computer vision on the same UI human players have to use.

[conjectures]

Yeah, this is the thing that I wasn't expecting when I first saw this reporting. Preferably with some lag to cursor moves etc.