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by ummonk 2856 days ago
>Anyone else getting a little tired of the immediate reduction of any conversation around early-stage startup job opportunities to "comp vs FAANG"?

The difference is so big, that I hope it continues to get repeated, until we start seeing a fairer distribution of equity.

>- You will develop a wide breadth of skills you simply can't develop at FAANG, as you will be involved in product meetings, business strategy conversations, and will regularly eat lunch with the CEO. I imagine the reverse of this is true as well, in that there are skills developed at FAANG that are hard to develop as employee <50.

Yes, this is true. Note, however, that this exposure isn't necessarily that transferable, unless you plan to become a founder yourself (which isn't a bad idea).

>- You will get to fast-track your career progression, in that you will be in line for promotions much earlier than in large companies, as opportunities emerge.

Only internally. It won't transfer to long term career progression unless your startup happens to be widely successful.

>- Companies (including FAANG) will look for folks with your skillset (my startup experience was a huge plus in my recent job search).

Nah. Experience in general is a huge plus in today's job market - but non-founder startup experience is no better than any other experience, unless your startup happens to be widely successful.

>- You will work on hard problems, with passionate people; folks aren't punching the clock here. This is fun.

People are passionate and not punching the clock in most places. You certainly do get to work on hard problems at small startups much more though.

>Also, for folks just thinking about comp, I'd like to gently point out that a 40 hour week on work you feel "meh" about is ~35% of your waking life. That's not to say you can't find exciting work at FAANG (I hope I have), but rather that there is more to a job than comp or career progression, and working with passionate folks on hard problems can be incredibly fulfilling.

And your comp today directly determines how much of your waking life down the road you will need to spend on work. Higher comp today means financial independence tomorrow (allowing you to work on whatever the heck you like).

Note: I'm a happy early engineer at a startup that offers competetive comp (based on my personal evaluation - and I'm normally a skeptical person - the expected value of my compensation is clearly higher than what I would get at FAANG), so I'm not agains startups; it's just highly unfortunate that most startup founders are incredibly stingy with equity.

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They are stingy with equity because it's easy to make a bad hire and then be unable to fix the cap table. I do think there should be a better balance, though, and agree that they can be quite stingy even with those who turn out to be good hires.

I feel being first engineer at a startup gave me the skills to found my own company and make a living on my own terms, which is ultimately what I want from life. Being super rich isn't too important to me as long as I feel I have broken out of the mold and am on a path to greater personal and creative freedom. I honestly wanted to kill myself after a few years at a well-liked, growing 1000 person company. It was too confining and I was too distant from the real world. I can't imagine ever being happy at a FAANG Corp, even if the work is initially interesting. The weight of layers of managers above always becomes unbearably heavy for me, especially since I naturally struggle against authority.

Well, while large companies are moving towards immediate vesting, startups continue to have 1 year vesting cliffs, so they have plenty of time to fix the cap table after a bad hire.