[randyrand]

this is one of the main reasons why states rights is important. Here are the big ones:

1. each state can be tailored to its population 2. each state acts an an incubator for new ideas and other states can follow 3. usa citizens have more choice in who governs then and can easily move between them

[asdkhadsj]

I mean, the same could be said for countries relative to the world, towns relative to counties, cities relative to states, etc.

I mean, I agree with you - I'm just pointing out that while I do agree with the idea, I've never understood if there needs to be a line or where that line of "new ideas" is actually implemented.

Some states are so big these days that they're basically the federal government by themselves. Ie, California. California hardly feels like an incubator for new ideas, as being wrong on such a massive scale could lead to very big problems.

Furthermore, rural and city life in California differs greatly, and I imagine there are often times where one group or another feels dismayed over a ruling that primarily focuses on the other group. Ie, the broad stroke of the state is so broad it may as well have been the fed.

Anyway, none of these are counter points. It's just discussion points that I've often thought about before. Ones that I have little answers to.

[xena]

The problem is that people poor enough they can't choose to move states get kinda screwed over.

[komali2]

Well, yes, but that's also currently an issue for say your average rural Indian farmer. Or north Korean.

I get that we're talking about Americans here, and can't be expected to solve every problem across the world, but I'm having a hard time drawing some arbitrary line in the sand here.

[randyrand]

getting rid of states rights doesn’t give them any more options either.

this is tangential.

[ocdtrekkie]

The unfortunate part is that people generally only advocate for states' rights when the opposing party is in power. I've never heard more liberals advocate for states making legislation than I have since Trump got elected, and conservatives haven't been all that hot on states being able to make their own laws since.

People need to remember how crucial states' rights are from when the other party is in power, and then continue to advocate for them once their party is in power.