[lossolo]

> 1. SLD introduced no social programs when it ruled (PIS introduced 3 already and promises more)

What about miners pensions? Of course you can't compare both of those parties because budgets and economy was a lot different then and Poland just entered to EU when they were ending their cadence.

Anyway, you now wrote what SLD did when they ruled but in original post you wrote:

PIS is the only economically socialist party in Poland right now, emphasis on right now. You should check current political programs of SLD and Partia Razem. They are more economically socialist than PIS.

> Less than 3% of support.

That doesn't make what I wrote any less true. It's like saying that gay people do not exists because there is only couple of percentage of them in society.

> But how do you call a right-wing nationalist party that is economically socialist?

conservative-socialist ?

[ajuc]

I'm not sure I understand which miner pensions you mean, there were lots of miners' privileges, mostly relics from before 1989. But even giving you that - it's still one small program in 2 terms compared to 3 big programs in less than 1 term combined (PIS ruled for about 4 years as of now).

And you haven't answered all the deregulation and privatization SLD did compared to the central planning PIS does now :)

> You should check current political programs of SLD and Partia Razem. They are more economically socialist than PIS.

There's no indication SLD is going to be any more socialist this time around. They were promising similar things before and never delivered (thankfully). I'm labeling them basing on what they did, not what they promise (similarly - PO promised to be a liberal right-wing party, but is actually conservative center-right, they lost many voters over that).

> It's like saying that gay people do not exists because there is only couple of percentage of them in society.

I specified I mean mainstream parties in my original post. Razem is a typical protest-party, people don't vote them because they believe they will be in parliament and do what they promised, people vote them as a "fuck you" to the mainstream parties.

They are as relevant to Polish politics as the tee party is in USA :) We also have a pro-Russian party Zmiana in Poland, but they will also never get to the parliament, so who cares.

> conservative-socialist

I guess. But there are a few ways to be conservative (for example, in any normal country PO would be called conservative center-right, and PIS is much more conservative than them, to the point of being extremists. See how they rename every institution from "public" to "national" for one example, or how they focus their propaganda on nationalist interpretation of history, and nationalist conspiracy theories about leftists, Soros, refuges, Jews, cultural marxism, gender, etc.