[skookumchuck]

> But really, when things like opiates are involved patient input is rarely useful.

Since there is no method for determining the level of a patient's pain, and opiates are for pain management, how can you conclude that?

[stef25]

Yeah, I didn't phrase that properly. Of course patients should communicate how much pain they are in, but they shouldn't communicate the type of painkillers that are to be prescribed.