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by TomMarius 2869 days ago
Aren't you always guaranteed (and required to have) a job in China? That's how it was in Eastern Europe before the fall.
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Not anymore. That was known as the "iron (rice) bowl," but that governmental job security has long since been removed from most positions.
No. It hasn't been that way in China for maybe 30 years now.
Oh, okay. Which part? Both, or just the compulsory employment?
Both. China is not really a communist country anymore except in name.
I know it's not really socialist/communist anymore, I just wasn't sure about the extent. Thank you for your time!
China is very much communist. It's very different than 19th and 20th century communist state, but the US looks very different than a 19th and 20th century capitalist state.

The Chinese governmental structure is very much communist. The ideals in the propaganda are communist. The goverment has strong control of their citizens, controlling how many children they can have, which city they can live in, etc.

You're looking for the term Totalitarian. All Communists are Totalitarian, not all Totalitarians are Communists. They've long since done away with the pretenses of Communism.
> They've long since done away with the pretenses of Communism.

They've kept all their pretenses of communism.

We aren't a pure capitalist society, or a pure republic, or democracy. We still use those words to describe ourselves. It's important that we do use those words to describe ourselves. The phrase 'all men are created equal' in the declaration of independence aided the abolitionist argument, even if at no point did the goverment treat all men as equal.

The ideals of communism still have an impact on China's goverment, culture and even economy. Just because they fall short of a perfect communist society doesn't mean they are not communist.

>All Communists are Totalitarian, not all Totalitarians are Communists.

Actually not "all communists are totalitarian" either.

tell me more about their welfare system, free healthcare and free education if you think it's communist/socialist country

as for children you are allowed to have two which nobody really wants anyway and they plan to introduce three or no limit at all

i lived in China for years and now appreciate communist EU more

Do workers own the means of production? No. Are they going toward that? No. It's not "communist" then.
> Do workers own the means of production? No. Are they going toward that? No. It's not "communist" then.

Newsflash: workers never owned the means of production in any communist state. They were told they would, but they were subjected to compulsory work to cater to the communist regime's elite goals while owning nothing at all.

That sort of bait and switch is pretty much the hallmark of every single communist regime since the very beginning.

There were no 19th century communist states.
There were pretty much no 20th century ones either.