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by xor1 2872 days ago
>Just the thought that through a few twists of fate I could have been born in some totalitarian nightmare state is enough to give me chills.

I'm curious about this line of thinking. Do you think your specific consciousness was being held in reserve somewhere, and it would have been placed into a mortal body regardless of when you were due to come into being? Plus if your grandfather had stayed in Cuba, who's to say your parents would have still met, started a relationship, and conceived a child?

The way I see it, I only exist because of the exact series of events leading up to that one moment where I was conceived. I exist because of a combination of a specific sperm and a specific egg. All sorts of factors contributed to all of us getting extremely lucky, even up to the final hours, minutes, and seconds before fertilization. We won, and we denied a countless number of other potential minds the privilege of existence.

There's no way to prove it of course, but I feel like a different sperm being responsible for fertilization would have meant I would have never existed at all. My parents would have had a different child with a different consciousness. Even if a specific consciousness is tied to the egg itself, that gives a window based on the menstrual cycle.

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I really don't think he means it in the deep philosophical sense of unique personal identity but more the fact that if the situation has been different whoever his grandfathers descents were (if any) would have radically different options in life.
>I'm curious about this line of thinking. Do you think your specific consciousness was being held in reserve somewhere, and it would have been placed into a mortal body regardless of when it happened?

No I don't.

Perhaps I am being a bit obtuse, but I think while I personally agree with your line of thought, the original thought is a hypothetical that could never happen anyway (we can't wind back time), so it's kind of a moot point in either case, as I'm fairly sure the OP didn't mean it like that and was just using it as a contrast to demonstrate to people how immigrants benefit from migration and are thankful and feel lucky to be in a country such as the US.
The value and equality of human life is fungible. Doesn't really matter who is who.