[clanreborn]

> Solitude is normally something you choose while loneliness is a product of circumstance

Suicide is also something people choose. Being killed is something that happens to them.

If a person suicides to not be torced and then killed my the enemies. How is that different from choosing soltitude over loneliness?

[krastanov]

You are mangling the word "choice" to fit your argument. Solitude is (for instance) me deciding to have a day or a week for myself to hike a trail alone. Loneliness is not having anybody that would do the hike with me if I invited them.

Or to your more visceral examples: Medically assisted suicide could barely be called a choice (there are hardly any options with less painful outcome), but a suicide to avoid being hurt by others against your will is definitely even less of a choice.

[clanreborn]

> You are mangling the word "choice" to fit your argument. Solitude is (for instance) me deciding to have a day or a week for myself to hike a trail alone. Loneliness is not having anybody that would do the hike with me if I invited them.

This is not how it works in the real world.

Consumers are blasted with manipulative ad but still they've a choice, it's no more different than a suicide.