[s0rce]

I don't know a single person who has gotten a recent (5 years) faculty position without one or more postdocs. I'd say this is extremely uncommon experience. Nor have a seen salaries more than 40k for students, even postdocs don't always make 50k.

[azhenley]

All of my friends on the market this year from a variety of schools got faculty positions without postdocs. It isn’t uncommon in CS.

My salary as a student wasn’t 40k. My income from my RA position plus my internship was more than 60k.

[s0rce]

I guess I'm not in CS, maybe thats the difference.