[blacksmith_tb]

I am also not optimistic, but all of those are also failings of traditional voting methods. So one could offer the standard defense of self-driving cars, "it doesn't need to be perfect, as long as it's better" (but it may never be better...)

[benchaney]

> but all of those are also failings of traditional voting methods

This isn't true at all. There is not way to tamper with paper to make it change its properties that isn't obvious and easily detectable. And once votes are cast the ballots are handled with significantly more care.

[d0lph]

Collusion of multiple parties meant to verify each other.

[beat]

Not just collusion, but collusion at scale. See my description of the Minnesota process. Voting and counting are done at the precinct level, and there are thousands of precincts. It might be possible to subvert a single precinct, in order to manipulate its outcome. But how many precincts would need to be subverted in order to affect the outcome in a statistically meaningful way?

Additionally, can the precinct be subverted in a manner that can withstand outside auditing by non-corrupt district/state-wide election officials? Keep in mind that if one party in the election has substantial reason to suspect the results were broadly rigged, they could demand a recount (even at their own cost, as happened with the Dayton/Emmer recount in MN), thus triggering all those downstream audit controls.