[Jonas_ba]

Expat who moved to Paris here.

The tech scene is definitely very active, lots of events and meetups to join and some very active companies with good products around as well as active VC's in the city. Add Station F and The Family and you got a nice place to start a company.

Salary wise, I guess you are looking at 40-70k range, depending on experience and role.

The part where Paris is not that great is moving into the city. Speaking from personal experience, my gf moved in with me and tried finding a job outside tech w/o speaking French and it's basically a nightmare, she moved back. Getting any paperwork done or renting an apartment in Paris is a nightmare as well.

So overall, Paris is nice, but you need to be French or speak French to enjoy it, otherwise it might take some time and in my opinion, it's the only thing that makes Paris fall short of being a good place to move to.

[ousta]

please give me one example of a major city where renting an apartment as a foreigner is not a nightmare lol.. in USA you need a credit score....

[Jonas_ba]

I guess any other city than US. I'm fine with paying up front for multiple months, but I was asked multiple times to provide details of my salary for the last 3 months, working for the company that employs me, a FR guarantor (which not coming from France is not that easy to find, I was lucky my company helped me here) + your salary needs to be 3x rent and there's about 20 people looking to move in to every apartment 1h after it's posted on any apartment board.

[ousta]

same in any major high density city. london is worse. ny is worse. sf is worse.

[fshaun]

My experience in London was much better... sure, a hot market meant you needed to move fast, but no hoops around local guarantors or months of pay stubs. It was easier than most local rentals I've done in Boston.

[reaperducer]

Yet strangely, millions of people from overseas do rent apartments in the U.S. every year.

There are even apartment complex chains that specialize in this sort of thing. Oakwood was one, last time I checked, and has buildings in most major cities.

As noted by my Austrian friends, you can do anything you want in America as long as you have the money up front.

[ousta]

oh okey so paying up front 6 months of rent is not a nightmare?

[reaperducer]

Oakwood doesn't make you pay six months up front. The Austrian comment was not about renting an apartment.

[ousta]

I just checked the rent prices of your "oakwood" in NYC. 8000$ a 1br in manhattan all sold out. I can imagine so many foreigner lucky to rent at such cheap price.

[reaperducer]

Why are you suddenly confining yourself to NYC? America is a lot larger than that. Your contention was "America," not NYC.