[Spivak]

Perfect example of features hackers want which don't matter at all to anyone else.

- Nobody cares about Linux. They could drop Linux support today and it wouldn't matter in the slightest. I say as a 100% full time Linux user -- we get what we get.

- Users want persistent chat more than they don't. Spam isn't an issue for most people who are are running servers for their friends and coupling them with voice wouldn't really help anyway. Users want to be in a different chat than their voice coms

- Users don't even know what voice ducking is and would probably be surprised by it.

- Nobody cares about self hosting. Gamers clamour for dedicated servers to reduce lag more than than for P2P.

- Users want these features and their core service is best in class. There's a reason it basically killed their competition overnight. I haven't even seen a Mumble/Vent server in ages.

[Nullabillity]

> - Users want persistent chat more than they don't. Spam isn't an issue for most people who are are running servers for their friends and coupling them with voice wouldn't really help anyway. Users want to be in a different chat than their voice coms

Looking at my old WoW guild's channel now, it's 95% spam that was only relevant to the 4 or so people who were on voice comms at the time any given thing was posted. It'd be fine to have text-only channels, but each voice channel should also have an associated unlogged text channel. For bonus points: prevent people from sending messages to text-only channels without (temporarily) leaving the voice channel.

> - Users don't even know what voice ducking is and would probably be surprised by it.

Tell that to.. anyone trying to listen to music in the background?

> - Nobody cares about self hosting. Gamers clamour for dedicated servers to reduce lag more than than for P2P.

Yup, it's lovely when Discord crashes mid-raid, and there is nothing to do aside from twiddling your thumbs.