[shakestheclown]

Or work on having the means to move to a country with a more sensible health care system before you reach that point.

[rbanffy]

And you can move before reaching that point. It'll be a lot easier.

[rconti]

Well, you need the means. Not just the cost of moving; the residency or citizenship.

[rbanffy]

That I know of, both Germany and Ireland are very quick to issue work visas if you have a sponsoring company and both Berlin and Dublin have huge tech ecosystems.

[rbanffy]

I forgot Canada. They have a points system for some professions. They penalize age, so, the sooner you move, the better.

[gt_]

Isn’t that basically a matter of paying for it in some form?

[zaarn]

No, a lot of countries require that you take tests and show that you're looking for a job in that country. Of course it'll also cost money.

For my country the following applies:

* Must have residency permit, permanent or temporary with intent to be permanent

* Must pass residency exam (tests language, law, etc.)

* Must be living in country for 8 years minimum

* Must have independent source of income that isn't social welfare or unemployment benefits

* Sufficient knowledge of local language

* Must not have been convicted of a crime

* Must pledge to the democratic order laid out by the constitution

* Annulling or otherwise revoking your previous citizenship

[rbanffy]

Most people can get away with a work visa. It's usually much simpler.

[rayiner]

None of those countries will have solvent healthcare systems when I'm old, so what's the point? By 2060, Germany's working age population, for example, will be 30% smaller than today. Who is going to bankroll their welfare state?

[shakestheclown]

I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that none of those countries will have solvent healthcare systems. There are steps they can take to improve the currently dire future. And I would imagine that pretty much any projection will show a more favorable situation than the US over the next 30-40 years.

Given the choice between a system that looks unsustainable in the future versus one that is currently unsustainable, I'll bet on the future one.

[gt_]

At 34 now, I hope to.

Can anyone recommend countries that are easy to move to? With urban environments and culture, without being too expensive for cost of living? I have tech skills but am not one of the trendy rich engineers. I commit my free time to art, as it brings me life. Unfortunately, it is increasingly unable to bring me survival.

[curuinor]

Assuming you're American, look up the Dutch-American Friendship Treaty.

[oreo82]

>Unfortunately, it is increasingly unable to bring me survival

It's only gotten easier and will continue to get easier to make a living off of art.

[baybal2]

China?