[masklinn]

Why? Shared behaviour — even juvenile — creates strong in-group bounds. And some competition within a cooperative environment is common. Especially if most of the group does relatively menial work.

Furthermore juvenile behaviour is commonly encouraged by both gaming and SV companies/corps: aside from being convenient to pull in just out of college without necessitating their adaptation to adulthood, it also serves as distraction/misdirection from work environment issues (permanent crunch, burnout, comp'): people who complain can just be feminized and dismissed as needing to "man up".

In fact, regular introduction of critics (and their following violent rejection) serves as both outlet for frustration and a strengthening of in-group bonds.

[roenxi]

Without any exposure in practice, there is another interesting subtlety here that are related to the stereotype of 'juvenile behavior is commonly encouraged by both gaming and SV companies'.

Opinions don't happen in a vacuum, usually they are formed after carefully consulting a group of peers. It follows that men would form opinions of women after discussion with other men, women of men in discussion with other women. A couple of things that OP describes read to me like this discussion playing out in a work environment, without understanding of how the woman listening in feels about it. I can sympathise, I'd hate to hear a frank discussion of my potential as a partner or have it floating around as watercooler gossip; that talk does not belong in a workspace.

But is there any evidence that the work-as-family-and-friends atmosphere makes these discussions more public? Or are they just a general problem of workplaces? I'd believe either and I don't know where the evidence is.

[amarant]

I mean, you would appear to be right. I wont argue the contrary. still, I had not expected it.

[masklinn]

The dynamic seems fairly similar to army grunts.

[mozumder]

So, in tech, do people not go to strip clubs anymore?

Like, what's the culture now? Are all interpersonal relationships now formalized into an algorithm?

Do people not get into actual fistfights at the office anymore?

[pjc50]

> do people not go to strip clubs anymore?

I've been in the industry 20 years and not had that happen anywhere I worked in the UK.

> Are all interpersonal relationships now formalized into an algorithm?

Eh?

> Do people not get into actual fistfights at the office anymore?

The guy I knew who did that at his gaming company Christmas party got put on "final warning" for a year.

[mozumder]

> I've been in the industry 20 years and not had that happen anywhere I worked in the UK.

Do you think that's because of the corporate culture you're at or due to you personally not knowing about it?

What do you do after-hours at conferences in Vegas? Check out the Britney Spears show or Cirque du Soleil?

> The guy I knew who did that at his gaming company Christmas party got put on "final warning" for a year.

So, how come he didn't get fired? Was he critical to project success at all?

[Balero]

In the UK there is no strip club culture like there is in the US. The only people who go in them in the UK are slimy old men. It is not something even remotely acceptable, and I would think less of anyone going to one here.

"What do you do after-hours at conferences in Vegas?" Probably gamble, not everything is different.

"So, how come he didn't get fired? Was he critical to project success at all?" We don't have on-demand firing. It has to be a process, and you have to have a justifiable reason, and process.

[rsynnott]

> So, in tech, do people not go to strip clubs anymore?

Worked in the industry for the last 15 years or so (in Ireland). Never heard of this. I'd think it'd be a HR matter if someone suggested it in most decent companies.