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I definitly see Apple as being capable as lying. They have a history of it, of course, so I dont see how this situation is any different.

Additionally, Google is absolutely bad, but that is just whataboutism. If Apple valued privacy as much as they say they do, they would take a stand. Lost profits are part of taking a stand.

I still don't see how that original statement is innacurrate.

[malshe]

Can you give examples of Apple Inc., the company, knowingly lying about anything?

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"Your holding it wrong"

"We slowed down your battery to make your phone last longer"

[macintux]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If you're going to assume Apple is lying about the situation, then sure, you can make any statement about them seem legitimate.

It's still not clear what anyone gains by them walking away from China.

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Of course they lie. They could prove to us that they are being honest, but have chosen not to. Why would they do that if they didn't have something to hide?

Sticking by your ethics isn't about what you gain, it is about being honest and trustworthy.