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by jroblak 2871 days ago
There is a lot of ridiculous hyperbole and disingenuousness in this post so it's a little hard to take seriously.

As someone who has lived in New York for the past ten years, the entrance of Uber hasn't changed my life at all, other than some VCs subsidizing/coercing some lower income drivers into taking $10 off my fare when I go to the airport.

Public transportation, which you deride, usage utterly dwarfs taxis/ubers/etc (notice all of the large buildings _in Manhattan and Downtown Brooklyn_ where people work?). The MTA definitely has some issues, but calling it dysfunctional because it takes a little extra time to go from Astoria to Prospect Park is absurd.

I don't need to be reminded of the standard, clean, regulated experience I have every time I jump into a yellow or green cab. Boro taxis were introduced into the city _two years after_ Uber entered NYC. How can you possible hand wave them away with "too little too late"? And Uber has its fair share of drivers who have no idea where they're going (actually, definitely more, but I will say they're better about following GPS, which can be both good and bad).

They're taking about limited the number and providing a minimum wage, hardly life changing stuff.

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> As someone who has lived in New York for the past ten years, the entrance of Uber hasn't changed my life at all

Ehh, depends where in the city you are. When I was super broke I used to live in an out of the way part of Long Island City. 50% of cabs in Manhattan would just refuse to drive there, and once there, good luck finding a yellow or even green cab. The local car service was also pretty unreliable and slow. When Uber came along I suddenly had more options to get home, I was able to reliably get cars to the airport, etc. It was a huge and instant bump in my quality of life.

> As someone who has lived in New York for the past ten years, the entrance of Uber hasn't changed my life at all

As someone who has lived in NYC for longer, I find your experience atypical. Do you take taxi/ride-hail trips outside of Manhattan? Are you a person of color? If either of those are true, your transportation experience has been fundamentally changed by the existence of Uber/Lyft.

And I'm sorry, but any favorable comparison of the cleanliness of an NYC yellow cab to an NYC Uber is laughable. The cleanest, best-smelling NYC yellow cab I've taken was worse than the dirtiest NYC Uber I've ever taken.

>There is a lot of ridiculous hyperbole and disingenuousness in this post

Nothing but actual experience, hello from Brooklyn.

>The entrance of Uber hasn't changed my life at all, other than [...] when I go to the airport.

Good for you, and I can actually know I can go to the airport.

>Public transportation, which you deride,

Who, me? I love public transportation. Especially when it works. Have fun using the MTA getting from Brooklyn to Queens, though.

>but calling it dysfunctional because it takes a little extra time to go from Astoria to Prospect Park is absurd.

A little?

Getting to LGA from, say, Kings Highway in Brooklyn is a 2+ hour trip using trains and buses, going through Manhattan and crossing the water twice.

Getting to JFK is 2+ hours using subway, LIRR, and Airtrain.

Taxi? 45 minutes.

That's one practical example for you, but we can sit down with the map one day and talk actual trip times for people living outside Manhattan.

>I don't need to be reminded of the standard, clean, regulated experience I have every time I jump into a yellow or green cab

Hahahaha. These cabs only got GPS and card readers like, what, five years ago? I still remember getting into a yellow cab with a driver who circled around the block asking for directions - and charging me for it.

>Boro taxis were introduced into the city _two years after_ Uber entered NYC. How can you possible hand wave them away with "too little too late"

That's why I called it too little too late. First, because it was too late. Two years too late, thanks for pointing that out. Secondly, because it's still too little; I very rarely see green cabs (but tons of Ubers).

>They're taking about limited the number and providing a minimum wage, hardly life changing stuff.

This sentence, to me, seems, how should I say it - ah, hyperbolic and disingenuous; thank you.

>I don't need to be reminded of the standard, clean, regulated experience I have every time I jump into a yellow or green cab

You and I have had vastly different experiences in cabs.

The cabs are disgusting. I can't understand the driver and he takes the long way around to squeeze more money out of me.

You're absolutely 100% wrong if you argue Uber X has a higher average car quality than yellow cabs.
I understand and respect the fact that this may be your opinion colored by your own experiences, but as a long time New Yorker I have to admit I giggled a bit when I read your fairy tale statement re: yellow cabs.
> the standard, clean, regulated experience I have every time I jump into a yellow or green cab

Huh, haven't been in one where the driver wasn't on the phone in ages. Two weeks ago, my black friend was refused pick-up. Brooklyn-based friends are regularly refused transport. At least the credit card machine broken trick stopped a few years ago.

Every single one of those things is illegal, and can be reported.
> Every single one of those things is illegal, and can be reported

Yet they're still common. I've reported them, and occasionally there's a fine, but at a certain point the cost of constantly reporting outweighs the benefit. It doesn't help that the TLC is a political position with the same financial conflicts of interests as the City Councilman who presented this bill [1].

[1] https://nypost.com/2018/01/27/taxi-committee-head-got-thousa...

Yeah buddy, no one does illegal things! That'd be illegal!
and yet they continue to happen. does that give you pause as to the effectiveness of enforcement?
Both of these are arguments for more regulation and enforcement, not less.