[bisby]

I mean we pre-render our text before it hits the browser. So if you have JS disabled, you still get text.

Also, HN has a completely different userbase than most websites. The biggest complaint about Android in the early days was "it has UI/UX for engineers" (that I personally loved). 99% of people aren't looking for a website experience like HN. Most people WANT some sort of slight flashiness and style. Also, most people don't use noscript. It's a valid tool to use, even if it is abused by some. We still run tests to make sure our total delivered payload is small and monitor accessibility stuff. Just because some sites are built like a dumpster fire using modern frameworks doesn't mean all modern frameworks are bad.

There is a huge difference between "you have completely abused javascript and now I get a blank white page with JS off" and "you've used JS to make interacting with your page much nicer"

[craftyguy]

Thank you for not breaking the non-JS use case, and thanks for elaborating on your point!