[mambodog]

So designers should do the initial work for free? So their customer can say "nah, I don't like any of them" and then suddenly a design looking remarkably similar appears on their website/products, courtesy of a much cheaper 'designer' working off the 'rejected' design comps?

[mfukar]

No, designers should not be expecting to form guilds or a cast and be treated like one. They're not a special kind of workers.

That is, assuming they do want to be treated like workers and not as artists. You hire workers, you don't hire artists, right? It'd be pretty derogatory for the real artist..