[poulsbohemian]

Here's the worst part about it - if you are TSA-pre, it's really no different than travel in the '80s or '90s - you keep all your gear on, walk through a metal detector. Takes about 30 seconds. On the other hand, if you didn't pay for TSA-pre, then it could be an hour+ worth of waiting in line to go through a degrading and yes incompetently administered experience.

So to my thinking it isn't even the dystopian aspect of big brother watching and prodding, it's the further disgust of big brother separating the haves and have nots. Some animals are more equal than others.

[amf12]

> if you are TSA-pre, it's really no different than travel in the '80s or '90s - you keep all your gear on, walk through a metal detector. Takes about 30 seconds.

And here's the kicker, you can get TSA pre by paying for premium seats. At this point having non-pre passengers having to take their laptops, shoes and jackets off is just a way to inconvenience us and has nothing to do with security.

[skgoa]

It has always been security theater. It's meant to make people feel like a lot is being done for their security.

[wool_gather]

> it's really no different than travel in the '80s or '90s

Don't forget that getting TSA Pre involves an in-person background check interview (complete with fingerprinting). There's no escape; you just get to decide if you want to pay to have a "not a criminal" permanent file created for you, or be treated like a criminal for free, repeatedly and in small doses.

[godelski]

Innocent until proven guilty, right?