[vetinari]

Professional organization vs hobbyist is a false dichotomy. We have entire operating systems that would be classified as made by hobbyists, yet are used by "serious organizations".

It also means, that we will not get some nice things, we would otherwise have. See also iSCSI initiator or FUSE for macOS. They have same problem - need to be signed by the right certificate, so nobody bothered.

Other systems, when they are running in Secure Boot mode, also accept kernel modules signed by the same keys, that are enrolled into UEFI. Why can't Windows and Mac do the same?

[TomMarius]

> We have entire operating systems that would be classified as made by hobbyists, yet are used by "serious organizations".

Which ones? Linux certainly isn't made by hobbyists today. It used to be, but that was a very long time ago.

[Retric]

Why Windows of course. ba dum tish

[userbinator]

Why can't Windows and Mac do the same?

Because of corporate control.

[0x0]

Fuse for macOS is signed by its developer, not sure what you mean "not get some nice things"? Or did you mean for windows? (Both windows and macOS require paid developer certificates to load kernel drivers)

[vetinari]

I meant both.

I wasn't aware that FUSE for Mac is signed nowadays. When I was checking it few years ago, it was an issue.

The iSCSI terminator for Mac still has the same issue. The code is on github, making it work is the user problem.