[hatergonnahate]

OMG, you are so disconnected... Chinese big tech (BAT) is much younger with tons of senior engineers coming back from FAANG. Their tech stack is very cutting edge and arguably better, e.g:

- (this is handling double 11 traffic! if you don't know what that means, a few X prime day traffic) https://medium.com/@alitech_2017/open-source-pouch-alibabas-...

- from BAIDU http://apollo.auto/

Wechat is a killer mobile app, no web red herring. look at FB's app, so awkward.

Disclaimer: I worked for one of FAANG and it's not that easy to adopt new things.

[dang]

> OMG, you are so disconnected

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[Canada]

I'm vouching this comment. Obviously you created this throwaway for this.

I know what singles day is about. I'm unconvinced by your arguments, but will concede that it's not a good idea to for the US to drive good talent away with shitty immigration policy.

Have you used Alibaba's cloud service? Why is it as clunky as a second rate shared hosting service from 15 years ago? Can you explain that to me?

Also, given the fact that I have to go through insane bureaucracy just to get an account on it, what do the tech kids of China have the option to do except publish miniprograms on WeChat? Is China really going to be a leader based on returning engineers from the US?

Apollo's code looks pretty interesting. Will keep an eye on that. Funny though, I'm having trouble browsing the site. Requests fail half the time. Oh look, it's hosted by Baidu.. no wonder.