[deadmetheny]

>Including just addressable grid and power plant inefficiencies. I suspect bitcoin is simply not a big deal (at this point), so this entire issue is concern trolling.

This isn't a zero-sum game. We can address multiple inefficiencies. Bitcoin is just one of the more flagrant sources of tech-based waste that doesn't actually benefit anyone.

>And then you come to the problem of what it means for the electricity to be "wasted".

Nobody's going to ever fully agree but I think we can reach a quorum agreeing that fake money made up by libertarians who think a couple hundred years of bank regulations are totally gay bullshit put in place purely to stifle people and not to address totally legitimate concerns of abusive behaviour is enough of a waste to curtail it.

> Eg, is going to church "wasting electricity"? What about the entire alcohol industry? Playing videogames? Preparing and storing deserts?

Alcohol and food are tangible physical products that have had demand for thousands of years, video games are entertainment, and church builds community. Some people will have problems with all of these, but they are almost certainly going to be the minority.

[nonbel]

Thanks, I appreciate this more honest position. You dont like energy being used on bitcoin because you dont like bitcoin. If enough people think that way then it should be considered "waste". Simple enough, but what is enough people, 50%?