[masklinn]

> If the kids we're coming from stable, supportive home environments where learning can take place outside the classroom, you might be right.

The entire point of the finnish model is that this doesn't happen, there is no homework and there is no suggestion or expectations of parental teaching. There is extensive support for both kids and their parents (including good free meals and teacher-provided tutoring), but all teaching is done by the teacher.

[pbhjpbhj]

How do you spend time with a child and not teach them?

[panzagl]

For lower socioeconomic status kids a stable environment means not being at school at 6 am because Mom kicked you out to 'party' with her new boyfriend, or not coming to school high because Dad hotboxed on the drive over.

[masklinn]

Sounds like a case for boarding schools. Does that technology not exist anymore in the US?

[panzagl]

If people can't get their shit together enough to make sure their kid has a sandwich everyday they certainly aren't putting their kid into boarding school. Parents found unfit for parenting have their kids placed in the foster system, but that is a lengthy legal process.

[masklinn]

> If people can't get their shit together enough to make sure their kid has a sandwich everyday they certainly aren't putting their kid into boarding school.

If that's the good public school of the area why wouldn't they?

[stuckinarut]

Parents don't encourage kids to read, eat better, sleep at reasonable times, etc...