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by cube2222 2880 days ago
Honey loses these effects when put into water over 44 degrees Celsius warm though.

That's why you should first make your tea, wait till it cools off, and only then add honey.

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Citation needed, please.

As far as I know, honey has two material effects: it is tasty, and there are some studies suggesting it’s an effective cough suppressant. I’ve never heard of either one being temperature dependent.

I’ve heard people claim that local honey has anti-allergy properties. I would certainly believe that the active ingredients in pollen are destroyed at high temperatures. But AFAIK any purported benefits are entirely unsubstantiated, and the FDA notes that bee pollen can be actively dangerous to people who are allergic to the pollen.

P.S. I drink my tea above 44 C.

Honey contains glucose oxidase from bee guts, an enzyme that produces hydrogen peroxide in the presence of glucose and oxygen[1]. The accumulation of small amounts of H2O2 is what makes honey shelf stable.[2]

It's probably also what causes honey to have antibacterial properties when you put it on a wound.

That's not to say that it would have any effect on bacteria in your body if you eat it.

The enzyme is deactivated or denatured somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 C. [3]

Honey itself has antibacterial properties but there's no evidence I can find to show those properties translating to your body after you eat it. It makes sense that honey is effective to help treat wounds because it's still honey, not mixed up in your stomach and beyond. I'd bet stomach acid would do a fine job denaturing that enzyme as well, heat be damned. So maybe don't boil your honey if you're going to put it on a scrape, but drink your tea as you like. I personally really dislike honey in tea.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey

2. https://pdb101.rcsb.org/motm/77

3. http://www.jbc.org/content/278/27/24324.full "The midpoint for thermal inactivation of residual activity and the dissociation of FAD was 59 °C"

If you put honey on a wound its osmotic properties alone have some antibacterial effect.
Honey is also pretty much the only thing that kids under 12 months old should not eat because it could cause botulism, which is fatal for them*

* https://www.babycenter.com/404_when-can-my-baby-eat-honey_13...