[paidleaf]

> People have always played around

Most people don't "play around". We have statistic proof about it.

> or to be frank, many women have been assaulted and had to keep it quiet

I'm pretty sure most of the 23andme customers are in the US and not in the congo. By "many" women, you mean almost no women right?

> maybe the best outcome would be more open communication and understanding between couples rather than even more prescriptive social norms about how relationships should work.

Opening communication and understanding are the prescriptive social norm. You make it seem like cheating and rape is the norm. Also, most people agree on how relationships should work. That's how we got "prescriptive social norms".

[Bedon292]

I am not sure over 300,000 women a year in the US is 'almost no'. That sure looks like many to me. With an estimate of somewhere in the 7-12,000 a year having children as a result. And something like 1 in 6 having been raped in their life time. Yes those are estimates, but still a significant number.

Edit Source: https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence

[paidleaf]

> I am not sure over 300,000 women a year in the US is 'almost no'.

We were talking about women getting raped, impregnated and having children unbeknownst to the father. That was the "almost no" I was talking about.

> With an estimate of somewhere in the 7-12,000 a year having children as a result.

An "estimate". Fine. There are about 4 million births in the US every year.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/195908/number-of-births-...

So I'm gonna stick to "almost no" here.

> And something like 1 in 6 having been raped in their life time. Yes those are estimates, but still a significant number.

More estimates? By whom? Let me guess, an organization dedicated to inflating numbers?

> Edit Source: https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence

Of course. I no more trust "estimates" from rainn than I do climate change "estimates" from exxon.

As I said, we were talking about women getting raped, impregnated and having children unbeknownst to the father. You turned that discussion into a stealth argument about "rape culture".

OP asserted that "many" spouses of "cuckolded" fathers were a result of rape. It was a very specific assertion. I responded to that, not anything about rapes in general.

Why is every response on this thread pushing the "rape narrative" here? I think that 1 rape is too many, but that wasn't what we are talking about? Why inject politics into this?