[mabynogy]

Yes you are. Look at your messages and mines. You're the troll. You use "?" and upper case a lot. I don't. You always try to change subject instead of agreeing on the problem. It's a lack of integrity.

You feel threatened because you invested time in those tools. It's not rational. It's an emotional reaction.

[Sohcahtoa82]

I use question marks because I'm asking questions. By having you consider what the answer would be, it would lead you to understanding why you were wrong, rather than me having to be explicit. It is an attempt, albeit possibly a poor one, to teach you something by getting you to think about it, rather than being told. If you would rather I just tell you why one-time pads don't solve the problems of PKI and the additional code bloat of using OpenSSL, I will gladly do that.

I use upper case because your responses are frustrating me, because you continue to insist that your suggestion is being dismissed simply because you're not into crypto, when I have said over and over that it was dismissed because it is simply not a valid solution to the problem originally brought up.

Your claim that I keep trying to change the subject instead of agreeing on the problem is baffling me. Which problem are you referring to here?

[mabynogy]

It's an emotional response.

IMO you just wanna be loyal to the group you think you belong to (you said "we"). I don't do that. I decide for myself only.

You don't admit your part. You just just justify your feelings. If you feel threatened, it's your problem. Not mine.

[Sohcahtoa82]

sigh

Maybe I'm just entirely misinterpreting your messages, because you're never specific about what you're trying to refute.

> It's an emotional response.

An emotional response to what? Please be clear here. Are you still thinking the rejection of one-time pads as a solution to the problems of OpenSSL and PKI is not based on logic or merit, but somehow based on emotion? If the answer to this is yes, then just come out and say so, because I would gladly explain what is wrong with your proposal.

> IMO you just wanna be loyal to the group you think you belong to (you said "we")

What group do you think I'm trying to be loyal to? The fans of OpenSSL? The people that believe everyone should use HTTPS?

> You don't want to admit your part.

What "part" am I supposed to be admitting?

> You just justify your feelings.

...and?

> If you feel threatened, it's your problem.

I don't feel threatened. Why would I feel threatened? You're the one that is acting persecuted for having a proposal get rejected.

[dang]

Please don't do pointless flamewars on HN. This discussion went way off the rails.

[mabynogy]

You prove you're the troll again.

[dang]

You were repeatedly uncivil in this thread. That's a problem. Please don't get carried away like that and please don't do flamewars here.

[mabynogy]

OK Daniel for the flamewar but I have been correct. I only replied. Some people are aggressive. I just said them they are and how they are. They don't like that et it continues endlessly. It's not possible to be a gentleman in those cases.