[skolemtotem]

Firstly, it's not unjustified to say that someone who thinks vanilla JavaScript is "bare metal" obviously doesn't know what they're talking about. Secondly, as a software-engineer-in-training, I agree - software "engineering" doesn't have much in common with other engineering, but I think that's a good thing for software.

[stevew20]

Could you imagine if software engineers DID do rigorous engineering practices?

It would be mayhem! Projects would just NEVER FINISH.

[chii]

But when they do finish, it will stand the test of time!