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by econochoice 2880 days ago
In the US, there's a legitimate propaganda effort to paint Europe as a den of "Islamic terrorism". You'll see these talking points echoed online, in memes, by politicians and on TV.

You can watch, in hilarity, as propagandist YouTubers go into European "no-go zones"[1], where they're met with casual street traffic, children playing and, often times, absolute peace and tranquility[2]. These "no-go zones" are supposed dens of radical extremists that assault and kill anyone who is not from the Middle East or Muslim.

Or, you can read the hundreds, if not thousands, of attempts to paint Sweden as a den of sexual assault against natives by scary foreigners. They completely ignore that the rise in sexual assault numbers have to do with recent recategorizing of what are legally recognized as sex crimes.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-go_area, do a quick Ctrl-F for Fox, CNN, etc and you'll see how widespread of an effort is being taken to paint Europe as dangerous to exist in if you are light-skinned or not Muslim.

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pochreLwrQs

[3] https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2015/01/..., an op-ed piece complaining about the fact that CNN was quick to parrot the "no-go zone" talking point without first checking their facts

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Did you read Wikipedia? While there has been a lot of smoke, the Belgian home affairs Minister and the German chancellor both said there were "no-go areas" in their countries.

And while not Western Europe, a reporter was stopped (even without camera crew) from going the most Muslim part of Sydney, for fear she would offend the residents and they would commit crimes https://youtu.be/LqY4Z1fTrMc

Did you watch the video?

The officer's words: "The local community walks around here without any fear, I walk around here without any fear."

She's a professional provocateur with a clear anti-Muslim agenda. The officer stopped her because he believed she was disturbing the peace, and I'd have to agree.

Try doing what she's doing at a New York City synagogue and see how long it takes until the cops are called.

Somehow, I don't believe, "I'm just trying to criticize International Jewry!" would fly in that situation.

This is another example of a neighborhood where there's casual street traffic, children playing and absolute peace and tranquility if we ignore the woman gawking at people while loudly decrying their presence, ethnicity and religion on camera. I'd call the police, too, if such a person was trying to make an example out of me while wholly disturbing the peace.

You can basically do anything in NYC.

That's where Candid Camera did all their antics.

I refuse to believe Candid Camera did anything as heinous as harassing people for their religion and ethnicity and then making a show out of going to their place of worship to "just criticize" an international conspiracy they purport as existing.

That YouTuber has been banned from entering the UK for inciting racial hatred. I don't believe it's wise to take anything she says or shows on her channel at face value.

I find it concerning that you're willing to put her brand of divisive hate on par with Candid Camera's pranks, as if what she's doing is just silly antics.

But...surely you were joking about contrary opinions near religious centers?

* Protest outside Christian Church, claiming they incite violence [1]

* Protest outside Mormon Temple, claiming Nazi agenda [2]

* Protest outside Jewish synagogue claiming subversive global influence [3]

* Protest outside Catholic Church claiming heretical views [4]

* Protest outside United Church of Christ claiming pedophilia [5]

...and many, many more full-on sign-waiving, chant-shouting, screaming protests.

Not a person traveling past a mosque who is well known for her criticism of Islam.

[1] http://ewn.co.za/2017/01/29/lgbti-members-demonstrate-outsid...

[2] https://www.hjnews.com/anti-lds-protesters-stake-out-prime-s...

[3] https://www.newsweek.com/charlottesville-police-refused-prot...

[4] https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/catholics-protest-at-kaine...

[5] http://www.mauinews.com/news/local-news/2017/11/man-spewing-...

Take a look at that YouTuber's channel[1] and tell me with a straight face that using terms like "antics" and "contrary opinions" accurately describes what she's doing or the positions she holds.

What's your agenda?

> But...surely you were joking about contrary opinions near religious centers?

Surely, you aren't trying to strawman a position that's literally one post above yours.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCla6APLHX6W3FeNLc8PYuvg/vid...