[KaoruAoiShiho]

I didn't say I expected anything else. The point is it's not secret information that Jim Keller's Zen was going to change the landscape, people were shouting it from the rooftops. It was all just a matter of whether you believed them or not.

[Phlarp]

Right, but the point is that particular sub would be shouting it from the rooftops regardless of the underlying truth.

I think most would look at the situation and conclude that even broken clocks are right twice a day.

[slededit]

Alas bulldozer made me a skeptic. I did get in once it was demonstrated to be competitive but the stock price was much higher then.