[consto]

While the article may seem alarmist, considering how little the government has achieved in the 762 days since the referendum, I too have little hope of any meaningful progress being made. We have 240 days left, little idea what the government even wants, and Theresa May is in the headlines for snatching milk from children. Not that the opposition is in much better shape.

I do not know what Brexit the UK will get, but it will be a lazy, half-arsed Brexit. My prediction is either the UK will crash out entirely leaving the country in the chaos described in the article, give in to essentially all of the EU's demands in the last few days or weeks to save face, or give up entirely and call the whole thing off. When was the last time any UK government pulled of something this big this quickly?

I am probably going to stockpile medicines, food, and essentials late Winter.

[zaarn]

Power might be interesting too. Atm the UK is connected to the EU power grid through undersea cables. France exports a lot of energy into the UK, about 5% of total demand.

What will happen on that day? Will France and Netherlands cut the connection?

I wonder if it will be livestreamed when the workers in overalls appear with hacksaws and cut the copper.

For purposes of energy generation, I recommend stocking up on car generators (very good source for 12-14V energy) and Car-Inverters to get grid voltage (and maybe reading up on how to weld a handcrank to a car generator)

[EliRivers]

When was the last time any UK government pulled of something this big this quickly?

Operation Corporate, South Atlantic, 1982? Although a small war isn't nearly so big a deal as Brexit.

[Cthulhu_]

Well can they pull out? They've invoked article 50, as far as I understood it, they'll be out of the UK one way or another.

And hopefully if they can cancel it and they do, they'll get fucked heavily by the EU as well as punishment for being a dick.

[afsina]

Alarmist is an understatement. Especially last part sounds like delusional to me.

[pjc50]

I've already had the experience of "no fresh food in the shops", and it was earlier this year when we had two feet of snow. Supply chain disruption to some extent somewhere for at least a few days looks extremely likely to me.

What I'm worried about is "cascade failure". So far there's been very little street violence, apart from the murder of Jo Cox. I'm worried about what might happen if, say, the Met accidentally kill someone and set off a riot at the same time as all this is happening.

[orwin]

Yes, it is alarmist.

But england did not train ANY new border&custom agent in case of a hard brexit, unlike Ireland and Netherland (and France already have some somehow). The renewment of the Touquet deal still isn't done, and France could very well say "no deal mean no deal" in case of a hard brexit, or ask for even more money to act as England border patrol. Spanish government don't care for Gibraltar, so transfering daily necessity (food and meds) will probably become more expensive (you can't say "no" to american military bases in Europe, but UK ones don't carry the same weight).

Anyway, hard Brexit will be hard on UK, but it will be hard for EU too. But it will be worse politicaly if EU look weak in front of UK, so either UK cave, either we're in for a loose/loose more game.

[NeedMoreTea]

> When was the last time any UK government pulled of something this big this quickly?

Suez?

[arethuza]

And look how that turned out....