[skylark]

It really depends on what kind of development you're doing.

The majority of software engineers are application developers making CRUD websites or mobile apps, so that perspective is the one to come up most often. I also happen to be one of those developers.

The challenges of application development are related to transforming data, handling asynchronous operations, managing state, and picking elegant abstractions that solve your problems. The intuition for these things is mostly picked up through hours of professional development, seeing good code, and shooting yourself in the foot a couple of times.

While there are some harder problems in app dev which do require deeper computer science understanding, they're extremely rare. I suspect this is different for people doing things like video game development, although I don't have any experience there so I can't speak to that.

[hobls]

Even most of video game development is simply using features of the existing engine. Some basic 3D math is required, but nothing crazy. You do find some gnarly problems in engine development though. (And some of the sub-disciplines like the network and graphics programmers.)

[agumonkey]

So CS should get a job at tooling companies because that's where deep things are done ?

[hobls]

I don’t think it’s nearly that simple. Some teams are product teams, and they operate higher in the stack. Some teams are straight engineering teams, and they operate much lower in the stack. Lower does not always equal more technical though. A product team dealing with incredible scale can still require deep CS knowledge.

My experience is that teams that act as a platform (and I’m using this term very loosely) tend to have lower level problems to solve. Think of AWS teams vs. large companies. A large company might be dealing with high scale; something like 100k+ transactions per second. An AWS team can have many large companies as their customers, so their scale gets ridiculous; much higher than any single company. This can require more traditional CS knowledge.

Some individual engineers love shipping products though — they like writing a LOT of code and getting things out the door. Some engineers like very carefully working on MASSIVE systems, but they end up releasing way less code. Other engineers like working on very low level embedded systems or whatever.

There are a lot of problems to solve, and none of them are necessarily strictly harder than each other. Some people who can support systems at incredible scale simply cannot cope with the speed of back to back product launches, and vice versa. There are tons of types of talent.

[agumonkey]

Thanks, that's what I was curious about