[tehduder9]

>youtube is great for building an audience, but not nessesarily good for keeping it.

I wouldn't make that youtube's fault. People just grow out of content or like other content.

And the overzealous community guidelines and copyright strikes are a result of hundreds of lawsuits against youtube by the movie industry, and a need to appeal to advertisers for their platform.

Youtube barely makes any real income, just barely.

People seriously seriously underestimate the amount time and tech that has gone into youtube.

PeerTube/alternate youtube will also be subjective to the same things and similar things will happen.

Copyright system has to inspect billions of hours of video in a day, you can't expect people to do all of that. Will the alternative that isn't already a huge company have the assets to deal with all the copyright infringement? To have the enourmous CDN and advanced AI filtering algorithms that is better than youtube?

[rhizome]

People seriously seriously underestimate the amount time and tech that has gone into youtube.

Sorry, but "yawn." More has gone into nuclear weapons and I'd send those into the sun in a heartbeat, sunk-costs be damned.

[tehduder9]

It's not about sunk costs; it's about being able to redo all the hard parts ... that a small startup would not be able to do it and a large company would fall prey to the same short comings youtube has right now

[rhizome]

You're saying they don't follow SOLID? ;)

[posting2fast]

> I wouldn't make that youtube's fault. People just grow out of content or like other content.

YouTube constantly messes with the subscription feed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdkMrDmODtw

> People seriously seriously underestimate the amount time and tech that has gone into youtube.

No, we're perfectly aware. It's just a huge chunk of that time is used on actively bad tech, that does bad things. Not out of incompetence, but out of user and creator hostile decisions they make time and time again.

> Copyright system has to inspect billions of hours of video in a day, you can't expect people to do all of that.

Don't host more on your instance than you have the resources to check. If people want to upload a whole lot, they have to do it on their own instance, and be culpable for what they upload to it. What is so hard about it?

There are billions of people on this planet, each could say something any second that would land them in jail in multiple jurisdictions. No need to centralize all speech and check it centrally, is there?

> To have the enourmous CDN and advanced AI filtering algorithms that is better than youtube?

Hmmpf. They couldn't even really deal with ElsaGate, 99% of which consists of videos using the exact same music. Indeed, people found more manually, and then YouTube failed to act on the reports. They have a worse performance than many little hosters would have in aggregate, I'm pretty sure.

[mikec3010]

The hypocrisy will be hilarious when people start ripping yt vids and putting them on pt, given how yt was born off pirated content and hid behind "safe harbor" laws to build a browsable catalog. The first clip that came from yt will be met with scathing rebuke from Google's legal team.

[toomuchtodo]

> The first clip that came from yt will be met with scathing rebuke from Google's legal team.

Unlikely unless Google owns the copyright.

[anticensor]

You do not assign your copyright to Google in order to publish your video on YouTube. That will not hold water. Rather, you declare Google an irrevocable license to use and publish your video on their platform.

[danShumway]

I think what GP was getting at is that people will rip and re-host other people's videos.

That already happens plenty on Youtube itself, so I don't think it's crazy to assume that you'll start to see PeerTube instances that take someone else's channel and just mirror it.

Now, is that PeerTube's problem? Not really, it's between the copyright holder and the uploader. Is YouTube going to try and raise a fuss? I kind of doubt it, the press would have a field day pointing out the hypocrisy.

But the laissez faire attitude of content creators (and Youtube as a platform in general) might ironically make it attractive to hosts who want to fill up their instances with content quickly.