[nickstefan12]

People are going to accuse me of "got mine", but I have none! What I'm saying is to consider that wanting cheaper housing today is throwing away a lot of natural beauty, vistas, and life, forever, just for a short term easement of housing pressure.

[saosebastiao]

Building cities is exactly how you preserve natural beauty and vistas. Maybe you prefer we convert Mt Tamalpais to a SFH subdivision, but I would much prefer we house millions of people in a few sqm of land than millions of sqm of land. San Francisco at Paris densities could house 2.5M people. We could eliminate an entire Silicon Valley's worth of housing development if we would just allow density where there is demand for it.