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by tzahola 2900 days ago
What about the people being prescribed benzos, SSRIs, etc. for life to cope with the issues brought on by a single does of psilocybin/LSD/salvia/DMT/etc?
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They don't exist. Continuing to repeat reefer madness propaganda does not make it any more true.

Show one scientific study that shows any long term effect from a single dose of any of your listed substances and I will be happy to take your comment seriously.

"Perceptual disturbances may last for 5 years or more and represent a real psychosocial distress. We reported here a case of a 18-year-old young man presenting HPPD after a mixed intoxication with psylocibin and cannabis. This report shows symptomatic recurrences persisting more than 8 months."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15963699

https://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/a-trip-that-doesnt-e...

"Evidence supports the association of LSD use with panic reactions, prolonged schizoaffective psychoses and post-hallucinogen perceptual disorder, the latter being present continually for as long as 5 years."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8251869

"Hallucinogen-persisting perception disorder (HPPD) is a syndrome characterized by prolonged or reoccurring perceptual symptoms, reminiscent of acute hallucinogen effects. HPPD was associated with a broader range of LSD (lysergic acid diethylamide)-like substances, cannabis, methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA), psilocybin, mescaline, and psychostimulants."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29209235

"The Association of Salvia divinorum and Psychotic Disorders: A Review of the Literature and Case Series"

https://sci-hub.tw/10.1080/02791072.2015.1073815

“New Studies Fail To Find Associations Between Psychedelic Drugs And Mental Health Problems“

http://www.iflscience.com/brain/new-studies-fail-find-associ...

Motte and bailey
I have met a lot of people who have experience psychedelics, and I know people who avoid them after a negative experience (much the same way people avoid tequila after one particular night), but I'm yet to meet anybody, or hear of anybody, who has had long term negative effects from psychedelics that requires medication.

I'm sure that maybe they do exist, but it's an exceedingly small percentage of people who try them. People are also allergic to peanuts, yet we don't ban peanuts for the few that will die if they come into contact with them.

Is this a thing?

I know a guy who seriously overdosed on LSD and had to spend a weekend in a hospital. Other than a severe aversion to psychedelics he wasn't seriously harmed, at least not to the point where he needs daily medication to deal. He has the worst Adderall tolerance his docs have ever seen but that's unrelated. I suppose I could ask him whether his OD made his ADD worse.

For sure chronic abuse of psychedelics will cause permanent effects but I'm not aware that anything other than a life-threatening overdose of psychedelics will cause someone to need lifelong medication to manage the consequences.

Probably a bad idea to make those prescriptions.

Instead, they probably need to go deeper into the material that came up on the trip in a supportive setting (at least, that has worked for me a number of times).