[yummyfajitas]

it seems that the places that pay consistently less:...old finance

I think you should clarify what "old finance" is. Finance in general pays considerably more than average.

[ardit33]

eg. Wells Fargo, Fidelity Investments (where I had my first job), etc... they seem to have the 'cheaper' better mantra, view tech as a cost center, and like outsourcing too much. I am not necessary talking about wall street.