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by shannongreen 2894 days ago
Always scared about fermenting things like this. How do I know it has the right culture in it and I won't die?
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You just have to trust that we've been doing it for thousands of years without killing ourselves. As long as you've got plenty of salt and a low pH, you'll be fine.

I've made all sorts of fermented foods over the years, pickles, beer, spirits, bread, etc. Haven't gotten sick yet.

It's really hard to get wrong. The salt kills most of the bad things and the capsaicin and garlic have potent anti-fungal properties which make it especially difficult to mess up. If you remember to turn your ferment once a day or so it'll go very well. (By turn I mean physically mixing the material at the top of the jar down into the depths of the jar and dredging up the stuff at the bottom for a while to sit at the top. This keeps "scum" from forming, but the scum won't kill you and can be safely scraped away without spoiling the batch if it does form.)
You could also look at it this way: This technology is thousands of years old and predates refrigeration and most basic sanitation. It's that easy.
The pH test reads 6 however, which is out of the safe range afaik.
It does not. I the camera distorts the colors a bit, but when I made the reading, I had it at somewhere between 3-4. This was also confirmed by simply tasting the brine. It is very acidic.
If you look at the color of the top block, it's matching somewhere between 3 and 4. Botulism is avoided if the pH is under 4.6.

The test strip is sitting on 6 but it would have to be darker to have that high a pH.

This is the correct reading. I had it at 3-4 as well. The camera also saturates the colors a bit.
The experience seems to be that organisms which tolerate high salt won't kill you.[0] Ditto for low pH.[1] And the bacteria in high-salt fermenting produce lactic acid.

0) https://foodsafety.wisc.edu/assets/pdf_Files/Fermented_Veget...

1) https://www.healthycanning.com/acidity-low-ph-is-what-makes-...

I'm curious what culture you are worried about that would both ferment the food, and also kill you.
In general if it tastes OK and doesn't have visible growths (e.g. fuzz, green or white patches) then it's fine. A lactic acid fermentation will actually kill most pathogens, so it's surprisingly safe.

The yeast and other lactic acid bacteria are coating (and usually inside) the produce, so you don't need to worry a lot about "the right culture". (If you want to be sure, you can collect a starter culture, but that's quite advanced.)

Source: I make beer.

More authoritative source: http://houston.afdo.org/uploads/1/5/9/4/15948626/1000_jay-ne...

I'd recommend watching the series "It's Alive" from Bon Appetit. There's an episode on fermented hot sauce.
+1 I linked it already in the README
Microscope or roll the dice.