[magic-chicken]

So you test the system with human drivers for a few miles, and if none of them dies then it's secure ? You actually rely on the subjectivity of uninformed users to assess the reliabilty of a safety-critical system ?

>> Not really. It's mostly subjective.

No. The quality of a safety-critical system is not subjective.

>> I think most would generally agree with the quality assessment.

You are not qualified to make that claim, and neither are your users.

[nojvek]

Self driving systems is in its very early days and commaai is one of the open ones i.e you can take the software and verify under the hood. commaai isn’t also lying that it’s a glorified cruise control.

Unlike crash safety, crash and burn, topple etc, there are no open tests or third party certifications that can verify that car model X is subjectively this safe and passes this scenarios.

The big cos are notoriously secretive and throwing a lot of marketing money to create hype.

I’m just glad that certain states have allowed such cars to be tested on the streets.

We have to start somewhere.