[bloomthrowaway]

Java's usage will never compare to compiled languages without GC because it has to cache a bunch of code in RAM and the garbage builds up between collection cycles. It's pretty bad compared to something like C for sure :)

[pjmlp]

Depends how well they end up implementing value types.

System programing languages int the 90's with GC faired pretty well in this area.

Naturally they had much more control over GC, how value types were handled and manually allocation on unsafe modules.