[downrightmike]

Democracy is hardly democratic anymore. It is mostly just a show. Votes don't seem to matter. Trump won the vote, putin won the vote.

[duxup]

I think the state of democracy can be a wide range of various forms and states and just declaring it "hardly democratic anymore" shows very little perspective and really favors the folks you think might be manipulating it....

[downrightmike]

And that's the difference between theory and practice.

[duxup]

What do you mean?

[microcolonel]

> Trump won the vote, putin won the vote.

Not sure how you could be convinced that these elections are even remotely similar in terms of legitimacy, I suggest diversifying your news sources.