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by chollida1 5736 days ago
How is this different from Python?

I install Python and most of the libraries I want are included,(batteries included).

I install Perl and most of the libraries I want are included, (batteries also included).

With Perl I've got CPAN available to install any libraries that I may be missing.

Python may have some advantages over Perl, but "alot of things needed to get the language to work for you" isn't one of them. In this respect I think Perl is heads and shoulders above Python.
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jbjohns 5736 days ago
You didn't read my comment. The point is that in a big org I don't have CPAN. Not without a big fight. And the perl language comes with do-it-yourself OO (they're not packaging Moose with the distro now are they?) and a bunch of other problems that you have to have CPAN to fix.
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jrockway 5736 days ago
I work at a company with 300,000 employees, and I had no trouble getting CPAN.

Perhaps it's just your company that's dysfunctional, not all big companies.

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jbjohns 5735 days ago
This would be a problem at every big company I've worked for that didn't already have something. Obviously it isn't a problem everywhere but knowing what I do about big companies I would say it's more likely than not.

And I wouldn't call it dysfunctional to not make it easy for people to be downloading all kinds of software for production systems.

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jrockway 5735 days ago
And I wouldn't call it dysfunctional to not make it easy for people to be downloading all kinds of software for production systems.

If only we felt the same way about letting people write their own software for production systems...

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chollida1 5734 days ago
I thought I did read your comment. However even if you can't access CPAN this doesn't change anything.

I find the default install of Perl to have just as many libraries built in as Python does. So even if you can't access CPAN then neither Perl or Python has a library advantage out of the box.

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berntb 5732 days ago
I think you are arguing angels and needle heads. :-)

The best part with Perl is the CPAN. If you know what you do, for quite a few areas you are crazily productive. It makes good economic sense.

My point is -- the size of the default install is irrelevant, the win is when you install stuff from CPAN. It is arguably better if the default install is thin, because then people/organizations will have routines to install stuff from CPAN...

(Other good points with Perl is that the language is fun and that the social culture of nerds is wonderful. The main negative ones for Perl are the trolling ("PERL is dead") and the learning curve.)

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